{"id":155,"date":"2015-12-17T16:15:01","date_gmt":"2015-12-17T16:15:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/?p=155"},"modified":"2015-12-17T16:15:01","modified_gmt":"2015-12-17T16:15:01","slug":"28-a-terminator-vision","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/28-a-terminator-vision\/","title":{"rendered":"#28:  A Terminator Vision"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is <i>mark Joseph &#8220;young&#8221;<\/i> blog entry #28, on the subject of <i>A Terminator Vision<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>I just spent probably more than a month trying to unravel all the timelines that are impacted by <i>Terminator Genisys<\/i>, and if you&#8217;re a temporal anomalies fan you&#8217;ve probably already seen <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/time\/TermGen.html\">that analysis<\/a>.&nbsp; At the end of it, and probably the last part I wrote (it doesn&#8217;t always work that way), I suggested that if the Terminator series wants to move forward from here, they&#8217;ll need new heroes&#8211;but maybe they could have the new hero be Sarah Conner&#8217;s second child.&nbsp; That got things moving in the back of my mind, and I&#8217;ve envisioned some thoughts for a future direction for the Terminator series.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know if anyone in Hollywood takes me seriously (someone once commented that <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/time\/termina3.html\">Terminator 3:&nbsp; Rise of the Machines<\/a><\/i> seemed to get some of its ideas from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/time\/terminat.html\">my analysis of the first two films<\/a>, but the similarities seem to me to be superficial), but I think these ideas might be workable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/img0028Terminator.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-156\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/img0028Terminator-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"img0028Terminator\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-156\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/img0028Terminator-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/img0028Terminator.jpg 325w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><i>Termnator Genisys<\/i> dropped Sarah Conner and Kyle Reese in 2017, where as far as they know Skynet has been stopped; we of course know better, partly because we were shown the surviving Genisys core in the rubble beneath Cyberdyne, and partly because if there is no future Skynet time unravels entirely.&nbsp; It appears that they are going to fall in love, and that John Conner will be born.&nbsp; Of course, John Conner can no longer be the hero&#8211;in 2029 he was compromised by what some have identified as a T-5000 and converted into what we&#8217;re calling &#8220;T-John&#8221;.&nbsp; If we want a future, we need new heroes.<\/p>\n<p>However, there is no reason why Sarah and Kyle wouldn&#8217;t give them to us.&nbsp; They&#8217;re settling down to raise a child somewhere in California, but there&#8217;s no reason they would not raise several children, to create and prepare a small army against the seemingly inevitable assault of the machines.<\/p>\n<p>I see them raising four children.&nbsp; The eldest, of course, is John Conner (California law permits parents to give a child any name of their choosing, as long as it is not done with intent to commit fraud), and takes his place in the stories (although he&#8217;s a bit young in 2029, if he&#8217;s born in 2018 he might just fit the bill).&nbsp; They give him the Conner surname because they know that he is going to matter to the resistance at least in its early days.&nbsp; I envision the second child as a daughter, and they&#8217;ll name her after her mother, Sarah Reese.&nbsp; The third child is a bit quiet and withdrawn, overshadowed by his to-be-famous brother but named for his father Kyle; eventually he&#8217;ll take his mother&#8217;s maiden name to be known as Kyle Conner, so that people know he is brother and son in the famous family.&nbsp; Improbably, the family breaks boy-girl-boy-girl, and the youngest I&#8217;ll name Madolyn&#8211;because I like the notion of &#8220;Mad Reese&#8221; as the wild child renegade freedom fighter, who will be our new hero.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the future; the present is where our story is set&#8211;or the near future present.&nbsp; Sarah Conner gave birth to John Conner sometime in 2018, and she, along with Kyle and Pops, has been raising him.&nbsp; In 2020, John now two, Sarah gives birth to Sarah (Reese), so now she has a toddler and an infant&#8211;and just about that time our movie begins.&nbsp; A terminator arrives&#8211;it should be something different, but not one of the &#8220;T-5000&#8221; nanite types.&nbsp; Its mission is to kill Sarah Reese and prevent the births of Kyle and Maddie.&nbsp; (From the perspective of an analyst, I&#8217;m thinking that Sarah Reese must have been killed in this timeline, so that Maddie has a reason to save someone but did not lose her parents or eldest brother.)&nbsp; From the future, Maddie sends help.&nbsp; Of course, Maddie is an impulsive type.&nbsp; She knows that Pops is there, and she could send another terminator to work with him (and gee, if she sends a repurposed T-1000 and it survives, they can replace the actor in the next film because of course the T-1000 can look like anyone), but I&#8217;m thinking she sends a person with knowledge of the weaknesses of terminators&#8211;or maybe she sends herself.&nbsp; That would be interesting&#8211;&#8220;Mom, Dad, I haven&#8217;t been born yet, but I&#8217;ve come back from the future to keep you alive so that I will be.&#8221;&nbsp; That might be interesting.&nbsp; It creates a fascinating dynamic&#8211;what parent would let his kid die to save him, but what if the kid will never be born if the parent dies?<\/p>\n<p>These ideas do not in any way save the problems in <i>Terminator Genisys<\/i>, but they do provide a potential future direction for the series.&nbsp; So I&#8217;ve floated the idea, let&#8217;s see if anyone notices.<\/p>\n<p> [contact-form subject='[mark Joseph %26quot;young%26quot;&#8217;][contact-field label=&#8217;Name&#8217; type=&#8217;name&#8217; required=&#8217;1&#8217;\/][contact-field label=&#8217;Email&#8217; type=&#8217;email&#8217; required=&#8217;1&#8217;\/][contact-field label=&#8217;Website&#8217; type=&#8217;url&#8217;\/][contact-field label=&#8217;Comment: Note that this form will contact the author by e-mail; to post comments to the article, see below.&#8217; type=&#8217;textarea&#8217; required=&#8217;1&#8217;\/][\/contact-form] <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is mark Joseph &#8220;young&#8221; blog entry #28, on the subject of A Terminator Vision. I just spent probably more than a month trying to unravel all the timelines that are impacted by Terminator Genisys, and if you&#8217;re a temporal anomalies fan you&#8217;ve probably already seen that analysis.&nbsp; At the end of it, and probably &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/28-a-terminator-vision\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">#28:  A Terminator Vision<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[28,16],"class_list":["post-155","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-temporal-anomaliestime-travel","tag-fiction","tag-terminator"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/155","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=155"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/155\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":157,"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/155\/revisions\/157"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=155"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=155"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.mjyoung.net\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=155"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}